![]() ![]() And that is when I started thinking, What can I do to encourage Christians in their faith? So they're not thrown to and fro. And I began to understand all these different facets. I didn't know we live in a postmodern world. I didn't know that it shouldn't have taken me four years, but it did. But we live in a world that does not believe in truth anymore. I can't believe it took me four years to figure this out. And I looked at my wife, Cory, and I said, core. And I remember I ended a book, I was in bed, finished a book and I closed it. ![]() And it was around 2016 15, when I really began to go, Okay, I think, I think I figured out what's going on for my brain anyway. And so in 2012, I began studying a lot, reading a lot, trying to get to the bottom of what I felt was happening in culture. And I just had a sense that something was off. preachers are saying things that were beginning to be very clouded that they kind of sound like truth, but they kind of sound clouded and new terminologies. And you weren't sure if they meant something? Or is it just that I just don't know the cool new words? Or when somebody says, I shared my truth? does that actually mean something? Or is that just a new cool way to say, I told my story, you know what I mean? Is that just is that is that mean anything, and I started getting the distinct feeling. And you would begin to hear these words and phrases that you hadn't really heard before. But really, it started back in 2012 2012, is when I began noticing all of the crazy shifting that was happening in culture, you know, all of the you turn on, you turn on the news, or even a preacher, or you go to church or you hear a Christian influencer. Because the truth is, is that, you know, the idea for the book started a couple of years ago, about three years ago. Let's see, you know, there's a really long version, I'll tell you the medium, like, give me the medium version? Well, because it actually is kind of pertinent. But you as a real person, like, what prompted you to write this book? But I really want to touch like, not as much on the accolades. And you've made a lot of headlines recently, with your new book, you got a que level award for your new book. And within the last year, you've started a podcast as well, you've got Cooper stuff. It's been a revolutionary year in lots of different ways. So it's wonderful that you've been persevering, getting the message out helping people I'm sure it's been a huge encouragement to people, especially during such a hard year. But congratulations one year, man, it's a lot of work is a lot of work doing these things. Wow, that is actually I'm shocked to hear that. So here we are a year later, we just celebrated the one year anniversary, and we've got John Cooper on the show. When we first started the show, I put out a thing saying, what guests do we want? Like, who do you want to hear from and the most requested guest was John Cooper. Yeah, what is I'm a real person with real stories. ![]() Ladies and gentlemen, we've got John Cooper in the house. He recently released his first book awaken alive to truth, finding truth and the chaos of a relativistic world. He is a father, husband, author, and most notably the frontman of the Grammy nominated Rock Band skillet. Today we have a guest that I know that you all know and love because he's the most requested interview that we've ever had. Thank you for tuning in to Trevor talks podcast where we talk to real people about real topics and real stories. ![]()
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